[Larrabee]

I'm posting this reply with Firefox 2. I upgraded to Mozilla firefox (yes, i call it an upgrade) in 2007. IE6 was installed on my computer, but many friends told me to install firefox and I have to say the were right!

The TAB feature is the most important one for me. (IE7 also have tabs now) However the pop-up blocker is the best you can get and you can install many add ons! Firefox is the best you can get!

[reevester]

Mozilla Firefox coupled with NoScript! Addon and AdBlock makes it one of the safest browsers that I have ever tried out! In todays day and age, online security is paramount and I cannot stress that fact enough!

If you have never experienced an insidious spyware/malware infection then you are blessed!

I recommend all parents to install these add on's so that their PC is safe even when the youngsters take over. They have a tendency to click on ad's for games/free stuff which isnt always good!!

Keep it safe!
Reevester

[Vipralion]

Originally Posted by sharkhead7854

lol yeah i edited it and put in safari
sorry for not including them all,
i chose those 2 because they seemed to be the most popular among the people i know =)

Not seemed, but are. Internet Explorer is the #1 web browser by quite a significant margin. Firefox is in second but is most assuredly gaining on IE. Opera is the king of mobile, though, Mozilla is working on a mobile version of Firefox to compete.

Internet Explorer 8 is currently in beta and should be released publicly this summer and offers tighter web standards support, as well as performance increases, and "activities" which adds more features than is offered with being able to right-click in Firefox and choose "search for this", or whatever else. It's really easy to highlight a phrase, click the button that appears, and have an instant translation without ever leaving the webpage you're on.

Being the crazy web dev/ net surfer I am I usually have both IE8 and FF3 open with several tabs open. I have 11 right now in Firefox, 9 in IE, and 3 in Safari (I use it for browsing specific sites. Kind of like my secure, remember no passwords, etc. browser. )

[ChrisTheFeral]

Originally Posted by Vipralion

Not seemed, but are. Internet Explorer is the #1 web browser by quite a significant margin. Firefox is in second but is most assuredly gaining on IE. Opera is the king of mobile, though, Mozilla is working on a mobile version of Firefox to compete.

Internet Explorer 8 is currently in beta and should be released publicly this summer and offers tighter web standards support, as well as performance increases, and "activities" which adds more features than is offered with being able to right-click in Firefox and choose "search for this", or whatever else. It's really easy to highlight a phrase, click the button that appears, and have an instant translation without ever leaving the webpage you're on.

Being the crazy web dev/ net surfer I am I usually have both IE8 and FF3 open with several tabs open. I have 11 right now in Firefox, 9 in IE, and 3 in Safari (I use it for browsing specific sites. Kind of like my secure, remember no passwords, etc. browser. )

Here is the thing I don't get about Microsoft lately, why are they copying to catch up? They haven't really been thinking about any unique ideas and this really saddens me to see that, I mean sure, some features can be copied I guess but that is ALL they seem to be doing that is obvious to me, I mean I guess they are doing other things behind the scenes but I never see any new features, only copied as of late.

[SkyFuser]

Well... you know...
Microsoft was never even a unique company. Bill Gates bought the first Microsoft similar OS from this person in Seattle for $20k. He just expanded it a bit and became the evil monopoly.
AHEM...<_< If you're Bill Gates, don't read above.

As for copying, they're trying to implement the very same ideas that make the other browsers popular, like REAL compliance to HTML and website standards (forget that word...>_<), crash recovery, small snapshot of the website, etc. popular. Otherwise, why make new ideas that has a chance to fail anyways?

[Vipralion]

Originally Posted by SkyFuser

Well... you know...
Microsoft was never even a unique company. Bill Gates bought the first Microsoft similar OS from this person in Seattle for $20k. He just expanded it a bit and became the evil monopoly.
AHEM...<_< If you're Bill Gates, don't read above.

As for copying, they're trying to implement the very same ideas that make the other browsers popular, like REAL compliance to HTML and website standards (forget that word...>_<), crash recovery, small snapshot of the website, etc. popular. Otherwise, why make new ideas that has a chance to fail anyways?

LOL. How ironic is it that Firefox crashed on me as I was posting in THIS thread out of all the threads on all the websites I post on! :P

Anyway, for those of you quick to point the finger at Microsoft for being the big evil corporation, you're biased and you should really be more open-minded about technology, especially if you wish to see progression in the industry. I have a thing against people who base their opinions off of anything but facts. It's just not right to base what you think off of inaccuracies and illogical arguments/conclusions.

I'd like to take the time now to copy and paste a well crafted comment from a random poster who I may never read another word from again.

First chunk of comment omitted... mostly concerns Mac users, or as referenced in the comment, Apple robots (aka fanboys)

I could give less of a shit about MS but I hate innacuracy. MS spends FAR more than APPLE on R&D and are almost single handily responsible for the dot com gold rush of the late 90's. They are HUGE innovators (which is different then inventors) and some of us old enough to remember a time before PCs on every desk witnessed just how much they have done. Here are a few off the top of my head.
AJAX
* Web browser component usable by any app
* OLE
* Spreadsheet Pivot Tables
* Tabbed spreadheets (since then, copied by other apps such as browsers)
* On-the-fly spell check in word processors
* LINQ (the upcoming tech that will be in C# 3.0 and VB9)
* Video codec innovations that have led to VC-1 being the premier codec for HD-DVD and BR discs.
* Mouse scroll wheels
* Mouse GoForward/GoBack buttons
* Ergonomic mice (I recall the days where you had to press down on a mouse while moving it in order to move the cursor; Microsoft ended that nonsense).
* Ergonomic keyboards
* Office 2007 UI
* Mac Office floating palette UI
* TerraServer (precursor of Virtual Earth, NASA WorldWind, Google Earth)
* Ability to alter compiled code while debugging it
* User Agents
* Wizards
* Intellisense
* Answer Wizard technology in Office Help
* ClearType
* TrueType (collaboration with Apple)
* Bob (yeah, it failed in the marketplace, but it was innovative (too much for its own good))
* Dynamic HTML desktops
* Taskbar
* Alt-Tab to switch apps
* Lots of small innovations in .NET that when combined equal large cumulative innovation.
* ActiveX (yes, it had security issues, particularly before XP SP2, but is great in an intranet setting)
* Net-DDE, the first tech to allow clipboard functionality over LAN
* Singularity
* Combining the Back and Forward history buttons into one navigation stack control in IE7
* Photosynth
* XPS (does everything that PDF does, adds graphical effects that PDF lacks, does it in a smaller file size, and does it using XML so the files can be manipulated via XML parsers)
* Windows Live Contacts (being developed by Danny Thorpe (legendary programmer at Borland, who jumped to Google, then 4 months later went to Microsoft))
* A bunch of little stuff in IM via MSN Messenger
* OneNote (I don’t think there’s any other app really like it (and those that try to be like it aren’t anywhere near as good), particuarly when used on a Tablet PC)
* Mac Word 2004’s notebook layout and microphone support
* Zune’s WiFi (yes, the RIAA only allowed 3play/3day sharing, but its use will grow into other areas)
* First console to have a harddrive (Xbox)
* Browser runs in a sandbox (IE7 on Vista)
* First browser with anti-phishing tech
* Multi-core/CPU calculations in Excel 2007
* XNA
* Vista’s ability to allow the user to increase RAM simply by plugging in a USB 2.0 flash drive
* First OS to support delayed clipboard rendering
* First OS to have a 3D Sound api for games
* Shadow Copy
* Media Center Extenders (which iTV looks to be a copy of)I could go on.

[ChrisTheFeral]

Originally Posted by Vipralion

LOL. How ironic is it that Firefox crashed on me as I was posting in THIS thread out of all the threads on all the websites I post on! :P

Anyway, for those of you quick to point the finger at Microsoft for being the big evil corporation, you're biased and you should really be more open-minded about technology, especially if you wish to see progression in the industry. I have a thing against people who base their opinions off of anything but facts. It's just not right to base what you think off of inaccuracies and illogical arguments/conclusions.

I'd like to take the time now to copy and paste a well crafted comment from a random poster who I may never read another word from again.

Wow I didn't know ALL of that, but things like * Multi-core/CPU calculations in Excel 2007 I don't think count as an OS in general as you have to buy that separately from the OS

[SkyFuser]

It is better to base opinion on facts rather than opinions. I'm not biased; I had never been tech oriented before December 2007, but before that I still hated Microsoft. The computers did UBER suck. I'm not saying all the other OS can kick Microsoft's butt, but Microsoft could do a whole lot better.
As for your R&D, is it pure invention, or copying off of other people? Microsoft is very crafty with implementing "new updates" that other programs have had before.

[Vipralion]

Originally Posted by SkyFuser

It is better to base opinion on facts rather than opinions. I'm not biased; I had never been tech oriented before December 2007, but before that I still hated Microsoft. The computers did UBER suck. I'm not saying all the other OS can kick Microsoft's butt, but Microsoft could do a whole lot better.
As for your R&D, is it pure invention, or copying off of other people? Microsoft is very crafty with implementing "new updates" that other programs have had before.

Lol did you read the part where it says, "...are HUGE innovators (which is different then inventors) and some of us old enough to remember a time before PCs on every desk witnessed just how much they have done"?

Also, by saying that you hate Microsoft, you therefore admit that you are biased as you form a preconceived perception of anything Microsoft as soon as you read it's by Microsoft. Everybody could do better with what they do. No one is perfect. Microsoft is targeted because it's the big guy in the industry.

Please people, be open-minded.

Also, if you don't mind using beta software, and absolutely love the latest technology, check out the Internet Explorer 8 beta: http://www.microsoft.com/windows/pro...8/default.mspx
It's intended for web developers to help evaluate their websites and how they will render under the new IE8 standards mode. Many websites, when doing browser checking, do so only for IE7 or above when the version targeting should be specifically for IE6, IE7, IE8. And if you are a web developer, it's not at all difficult to ensure that your website renders properly.

[ChrisTheFeral]

Originally Posted by Vipralion

Lol did you read the part where it says, "...are HUGE innovators (which is different then inventors) and some of us old enough to remember a time before PCs on every desk witnessed just how much they have done"?

Also, by saying that you hate Microsoft, you therefore admit that you are biased as you form a preconceived perception of anything Microsoft as soon as you read it's by Microsoft. Everybody could do better with what they do. No one is perfect. Microsoft is targeted because it's the big guy in the industry.

Please people, be open-minded.

Referring to "therefore admit that you are biased"
Gah, please no more fights *head explodes* - I can just see one around the corner.