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Corrine · 05-18-2008, 07:07 PM

Blogs, forums and news articles are filled with reports about Dell, HP and Lenova making Windows XP available after the June 30, 2008, OEM license availability date. Microsoft already extended sales of XP to June 30 and end of free product support ends in April 2009. Perhaps consumers should try to get GM to resume manufacture of the 1957 Chevy.

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I have just been advised by my Dell representative that Dell will be offering XP on Optiplex and Latitude computers through 2011 at no extra cost. Vista media will be available for those who think they might want to install it later on. Vostro computer orders will have the same option at a $50.00 premium.

Note: this means that there will be an extended period of review available for Windows 7 before we have to commit to it.

She told me that the reps are thrilled to be able to respond to the increasing expressions of concern from customers regarding the June 30 cut-off XP date publicized by Microsoft. She also told me that, of the more than 100 customers she has, only one is ordering Vista computers…

From Tom's Hardware: Dell, HP, Lenovo Offer WinXP Beyond June 30

Ric_Knight · 05-18-2008, 08:55 PM

I know that Microsoft is trying to get everyone on the Vista band wagon, but it seems like good business to keep selling XP while pusing Vista. It's a extra stream of income.

I am a Vista user and am very happy with it, but I get that not everyone is, so Microsoft might be best served to continue to sell XP.

Corrine · 05-19-2008, 12:27 AM

It may be an extra source of income, but maintaining multiple operating systems also requires an incredible amount of additional effort. Something that is often forgotten is that each update has to be translated and tested in 133 different supported operating system languages. I would much rather see that effort placed in improving Windows Vista.

Bernardakins · 05-19-2008, 12:49 AM

I think it's nice that they're keeping it available for a longer time. Vista doesn't run very well on computers designed to be itty-bitty and portable, like UMPCs. XP doesn't use as many resources and boots much faster on machines like that. =l
Perhaps they'll only offer it until "Windows 7" comes around...?

Larrabee · 05-19-2008, 08:12 PM

I don't get it? They will offer you Windows XP till 2011 but Microsoft only to June 30th? I read they would extend it with the Eee PCs and OLPC.

Many customers are still asking for Windows XP, that's the reason they will still offer it.

I don't know why, because Windows Vista is stylish, fast and it's easy to use... But I don't have it

Sheerdal · 05-19-2008, 09:12 PM

Well Dell could stockpile the licenses and then resell them off I would imagine. But Microsot won't be selling anymore OEM and Retailer license after June 30th. The other thing that happened is that Micorosoft added five additional year to windows XP Home and Media Center lines I believe.

You can see a little bit more on this at this blog.

MICROSOFT SUPPORT LIFECYCLE BLOG : What?s happening to Windows XP on June 30th?

SkyFuser · 05-20-2008, 01:27 AM

They're using a loophole in their contract with Microsoft. And it's legal

Let's see, didn't Dell say they'll include Windows XP with any Vista computers they sell?
Personally it's XP all the way for me. I tried Vista on a friend's computer... didn't like it.

djeuro · 05-20-2008, 02:07 AM

there is a save XP petition up for the people that want to keep it. So make sure to sign it so microsoft keeps selling xp and keeps doing updates and new service packs

heres the link

Save Windows XP | InfoWorld

Corrine · 05-20-2008, 02:41 AM

@Sheerdal - thanks for that blog link. It was one I didn't have.

Personally, I disagree with what Dell is rumored to be doing. Aside from vendors being slow to update drivers, I saw a lot of initial problems people had who purchased a new computer with Windows Vista due to the OEM sellers trying to pawn off old hardware (i.e., not enough RAM/Memory, etc.).

I recall how dead set people were against Windows XP when it was released, and now look. So many people don't want to give it up. I like the new features in Windows Vista.

SkyFuser · 05-20-2008, 03:01 AM

I've never heard of any XP complaints when it came out. Windows ME was the real sucker though... <_<
UAC in Vista is hecka annoying. It popped up at least 10 times for the 15 minutes my group and I were using programs to edit our project.
And for any aesthetic feature you can easily get with XP too...

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djeuro Status: Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Chicago Posts: 189	there is a save XP petition up for the people that want to keep it. So make sure to sign it so microsoft keeps selling xp and keeps doing updates and new service packs heres the link Save Windows XP \| InfoWorld __________________ DjEuro Sorry for gramatic errors

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05-18-2008, 08:55 PM	#2 (permalink)
Ric_Knight Status: Junior Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 25	I know that Microsoft is trying to get everyone on the Vista band wagon, but it seems like good business to keep selling XP while pusing Vista. It's a extra stream of income. I am a Vista user and am very happy with it, but I get that not everyone is, so Microsoft might be best served to continue to sell XP.

05-19-2008, 12:27 AM	#3 (permalink)
Corrine Status: Junior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Upstate NY Posts: 18	It may be an extra source of income, but maintaining multiple operating systems also requires an incredible amount of additional effort. Something that is often forgotten is that each update has to be translated and tested in 133 different supported operating system languages. I would much rather see that effort placed in improving Windows Vista.

05-19-2008, 12:49 AM	#4 (permalink)
Bernardakins Status: Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Kansas Posts: 42	I think it's nice that they're keeping it available for a longer time. Vista doesn't run very well on computers designed to be itty-bitty and portable, like UMPCs. XP doesn't use as many resources and boots much faster on machines like that. =l Perhaps they'll only offer it until "Windows 7" comes around...?

05-19-2008, 08:12 PM	#5 (permalink)
Larrabee Status: Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Belgium, Europe Posts: 234	I don't get it? They will offer you Windows XP till 2011 but Microsoft only to June 30th? I read they would extend it with the Eee PCs and OLPC. Many customers are still asking for Windows XP, that's the reason they will still offer it. I don't know why, because Windows Vista is stylish, fast and it's easy to use... But I don't have it

05-19-2008, 09:12 PM	#6 (permalink)
Sheerdal Status: Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Florida Posts: 34	Well Dell could stockpile the licenses and then resell them off I would imagine. But Microsot won't be selling anymore OEM and Retailer license after June 30th. The other thing that happened is that Micorosoft added five additional year to windows XP Home and Media Center lines I believe. You can see a little bit more on this at this blog. MICROSOFT SUPPORT LIFECYCLE BLOG : What?s happening to Windows XP on June 30th?

05-20-2008, 01:27 AM	#7 (permalink)
SkyFuser Status: Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Fremont, CA Posts: 221	They're using a loophole in their contract with Microsoft. And it's legal Let's see, didn't Dell say they'll include Windows XP with any Vista computers they sell? Personally it's XP all the way for me. I tried Vista on a friend's computer... didn't like it.

05-20-2008, 02:41 AM	#9 (permalink)
Corrine Status: Junior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Upstate NY Posts: 18	@Sheerdal - thanks for that blog link. It was one I didn't have. Personally, I disagree with what Dell is rumored to be doing. Aside from vendors being slow to update drivers, I saw a lot of initial problems people had who purchased a new computer with Windows Vista due to the OEM sellers trying to pawn off old hardware (i.e., not enough RAM/Memory, etc.). I recall how dead set people were against Windows XP when it was released, and now look. So many people don't want to give it up. I like the new features in Windows Vista.

05-20-2008, 03:01 AM	#10 (permalink)
SkyFuser Status: Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Fremont, CA Posts: 221	I've never heard of any XP complaints when it came out. Windows ME was the real sucker though... <_< UAC in Vista is hecka annoying. It popped up at least 10 times for the 15 minutes my group and I were using programs to edit our project. And for any aesthetic feature you can easily get with XP too...